Who was first?

[Ildi]

Thanks for that Lloyd. The channeled essences are pretty consistent on this issue.

[Old Salty]

Small Evolutionary changes.........

That's a nice theory Salty, but it doesn't work for me. I prefer the "both at the same time" idea.

OK! Ildi...when did a Chicken become a Chicken..what was the point when it was something other than the Chicken we call it...so surely the Genetic makeup in the Egg changed it from what it was, to being a Chicken???? No??

[Ildi]

OK! Ildi...when did a Chicken become a Chicken..what was the point when it was something other than the Chicken we call it...

Salty, I believe that a chicken has always been a chicken, it was never anything else. Just like humans were always humans, reptiles were always reptiles, etc. Science believes that we came from some primordial goo and evolved into different species of creatures and plants and what have you. It's a very neat theory, but has never been proven. I believed the scientific explanation myself for a long time, until one day I've read a different explanation from channeled essences, which made a lot more sense to me. That theory also cannot be proven of course, but it resonates with me a lot more than any scientific answer.
And since I also believe that time is not linear but simultaneous, I have to say that the chicken and the egg "came" at the same time.

[alchemistic]

I don’t believe the chicken was always a chicken, in so far as a physical entity as a chicken. Or that humans were always humans, in the sense that our physical selves have always been human.

I believe everything and everyone, including all living things, trees, flowers, a frog, a human, etc… we’re all energy that creates our form as we come into being.

(A little duality twist) I also believe that no human, not one, no human beings are indigenous to this planet. That possibly not so long after this planet came into being, other beings from other planets, galaxies or from other realms…which ever (I’m unsure) came here to explore it. I think there has been much done with our dna (not limited to humans…talking about all things which contain dna)

I believe that many things did not originate on this planet. They were either brought here or created here, from other things brought here. (But, no matter because "everything" is connected. That being, the beings on all the planets, and all galaxies, etc…

In the sense of the beginning, everything starts out as energy, and has always been in existence, but in what physical form is the question. But then again, there doesn’t “have” to be a physical form at all does there!

Maybe their form is created by their own perceptions or by the viewer’s perception. Each has their own perception anyway. In either case, when broken down, everything is energy and changes everyday (in a “constant” state of change)

And, everything I just wrote is subject to change too…lol
As my spirituality and beliefs change from day to day, sometimes hour to hour. I take what comes in or comes to me, then process it. The basses is still the same…but, until I know everything (lol), I remain open to all possibilities.

[Ildi]

I believe everything and everyone, including all living things, trees, flowers, a frog, a human, etc… we’re all energy that creates our form as we come into being.

I agree 100%. When I say "the chicken has always been a chicken" I mean that in did not evolve into a chicken from another form of creature. Like science believes that birds evolved from dinosaurs. I believe that dinosaurs were dinosaurs and chickens are chickens. There was no linear development from one to another. Just like humans were humans from the time they took form, they were never apes that slowly turned into humans.

[Old Salty]

I believe everything and everyone, including all living things, trees, flowers, a frog, a human, etc… we’re all energy that creates our form as we come into being.

I agree 100%. When I say "the chicken has always been a chicken" I mean that in did not evolve into a chicken from another form of creature. Like science believes that birds evolved from dinosaurs. I believe that dinosaurs were dinosaurs and chickens are chickens. There was no linear development from one to another. Just like humans were humans from the time they took form, they were never apes that slowly turned into humans.

I am not trying to prove or disprove Evolution Ildi...But You must believe that a Chicken grows from the Genitic makeup in the egg?
It dose not just appear spontainiously out of Energy, nor dose the Egg...so this could be seen as a continuing circle of life, but whatever you believe, there must have been a start to that circle and I believe that the "EGG" was the start....
The Chicken and egg are not two separate creations, as one becomes the other, same as children and adults, or dont you believe that???

[Ildi]

I am not trying to prove or disprove Evolution Ildi...But You must believe that a Chicken grows from the Genitic makeup in the egg?
It dose not just appear spontainiously out of Energy, nor dose the Egg...so this could be seen as a continuing circle of life, but whatever you believe, there must have been a start to that circle and I believe that the "EGG" was the start....
The Chicken and egg are not two separate creations, as one becomes the other, same as children and adults, or dont you believe that???

Sure I do. The chicken does grow out of the egg, but the question here was what was first. The chicken or the egg?
Or for that matter, what was first the child or the adult?

[Old Salty]

I am not trying to prove or disprove Evolution Ildi...But You must believe that a Chicken grows from the Genitic makeup in the egg?
It dose not just appear spontainiously out of Energy, nor dose the Egg...so this could be seen as a continuing circle of life, but whatever you believe, there must have been a start to that circle and I believe that the "EGG" was the start....
The Chicken and egg are not two separate creations, as one becomes the other, same as children and adults, or dont you believe that???

Sure I do. The chicken does grow out of the egg, but the question here was what was first. The chicken or the egg?
Or for that matter, what was first the child or the adult?

The genetic makeup for the Chicken is in the Egg...so the Chicken comes from the Egg.
Where dose the originial Egg come from...? Perhaps it was created from energy???
The Egg becomes the Chicken so the Egg was first.
The Child becomes the Adult so the Child was first.
Simple!!!!