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[Rene]

unbeleivable!! wow

Hey would you consider posting this at another forum I frequent? I know for a fact the folks who attend that forum would deffently appreciate your story.... here is the link for your consideration!!

http://www.newlightbeings.com/ (or)

http://www.newlightbeings.com/group/bipolarorwakingup

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OK!..let me try and understand this...I always understood that "Astral Projection" was for the person to conciously Project their Mind or Being outside their body into the Astral Plane...or as I used to call it "Mind out of body experience" I understood that the person was in control of what they were doing and able to go places with their mind (Self) at least that is what I did...

But now some people say that they can go to the "Astral Plane" while being in a dream state..... I do not think it is the same thing I experienced...

Dreams and Imagination can be very vivid and seem real but... AP? I dont think so...It took me years of practice to get to the stage I did...So how can someone who has never practiced this, all of a sudden have an 'AP' experience.

They are not then Projecting...Just being led (or imagining) being on another plane.

Perhaps this is another place those people are going to but I dont know enough about their "Astral Plane"..It is not the same place I have been....

Sorry to be a bore! but I have had so much experience with 'AP' I do not want it to be used by others to explain their Dreams.

As I have said, I am a sceptic and I think that others will use what they think to undermine the real experiences people have....same with UFO's...too many nutters...lol

[Rene]

I'm reading an awsome book at this present time called : "On Becoming an Alchemist", a guide for a modern day magician, ( btw i highly recomend this book)

http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Alchemis ... 1590303695


She speaks of the "Astral Plane" as baggage claim, this is sort of the dumping ground for all our unwanted thoughts, ideas and lower inhabitants ( lower energie beings), she says serious practising spiritual alchemist can't help but to end up in the astral at least one......... the deception is only if dont you that you are there....

I highly recomend her book, it has helped me a lot

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Jack 999:

Then Ive just hanged around the astral a little doing
something like mostly hanging around some white masters talking about spiritual things.

Yes! I have also met those Masters in white robes....They just ignored me and were Meditating or Discussing other things...But to me they were on another Planet, as, I Projected into Space to find other beings like myself and I found them...They were boring....So I never went there again...lol

OK! Jack 999! I do not presume to know all the "Astral Planes" there are, so I am sorry I doubted you...Just me being a sceptic...and I am still learning...lol

Good luck with the Book!

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by jack 999 on Sun May 24, 2009 2:08 am

I did hower say many times already that I the one I have written in Finland is no "Book".I mean
there is nothing that I´ve invented as "story",but it is just cold facts what happened to me
in the astral.I just call it a book because it´s so long(800 pages!)

Why not make it a Book?...It would make a great read...

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