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[Revenant]

Thank you. That is why we are on Earth I think and forgot who we and are submerged in negativity, doom and disaster. Which is the exact opposite of who we are.
Perhaps this polarity universe was created so that we(our true selves/higher selves) could EXPERIENCE the opposite of who we are truly are in extreme detail and bring that knowledge back to the source as a grand experiment. Perhaps because the soul knows 3D does not mean he experienced 3D from a higher pespective. Perhaps the best way is to go in(3D) and experience the opposite of ourselves with negativity as a tool to bring us back home again.

Just like smelling good food outside(knowing) of a restaurant does not mean you eat the food and experience the restaurant itself and the food(experiencing).

That's why god allows all this bad stuff happening on Earth because he loves us so much, you can even insult him/her without being smited. Because if god did not allow it, you/it wouldn't be here. Because we exist is because god allows us to. If we sinned and still exist is because we are forgiven instantly(by god). We have an eternity to learn our stuff, over and over again. We are that much loved by the creator. If god wasn't here Earth life would be unbearable for us because no pain is really unbearable because we still exist. That is why the secret is in being(I am), because we exist, we are.

[being human]

stop it already..lol..
fantastic stuff man...

many good ideas...
lots to ponder...

[Revenant]

yes but but...

Ok, but why would god punish you after you died? why does he just not punish you when you are alive? (religion question)(one does not receive punishment like bruises, wounds, death or even total disintegration from god in life...because you still exist you know you have been forgiven instantly)

[being human]

I dont think I understand all the way...

Where did the god punishing sinners thing come in?

Are you saying that even tho you are alive in hell..
you still exist, so you have life, and god gave you life so you are still good with god?

[Revenant]

Ai, tough question...

Are you saying that even tho you are alive in hell..
you still exist, so you have life, and god gave you life so you are still good with god?

Ok, I'll replace "Earth" with "Hell".

If one is still alive, even the devil himself, it must have a reason or purpose for being alive.
Perhaps for soul growth or learning something. Perhaps the ulitmate goal of a soul is to return to the source or even to be like god 100%. Even though being in hell must feel like a severe punishment I still think the concept of going to hell is man made.
Perhaps there are places in the universe that equal our concept of hell, but I don't think god will judge you and send you there. You are probably attracted to it because it is in your energy signature, your frequency.(reincarnation wise).

[being human]

I get you..
you are still being as opposed to not being...
you are still something rather than nothing..
that sorta thing?

[PracticalMystic]

Max and I went to a talk about Spiral Dynamics at a Facilitators Network here in NZ a couple of years ago, and a few years previous to that, I became familiar with the system through another presentation in the states. This system is an enlightening and empowering tool which is worthy of investigation. It definitely can further shed some light on this thread discussion as it has long been opening doors that were once closed in terms of understanding and communication between diverse people.

Great Basics Video: See 1-3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrKvDPtnzEo

(Rev,

I would love to have this post also copied in a spot where people can easily access it as a helpful resource or tool option, any suggestions?)

Spiral Dynamics

The system describes the effects of life conditions on our idea sets, mind and value sets (called memes). It discusses how these memes replicate and communicate themselves through the minds of people and cultures, offering a model which describes the different world views and values sets held by different people and providing us a look into ways of determining who holds which world view – i.e. the answer to the question “How do you know?” and how to deal with each world view for maximum effectiveness in people management.

http://www.leadervision.com.au/spiral_dynamics.html

See Chart at middle of page: http://www.calresco.org/wp/spiral.htm

A more user friendly way of thinking about this complex system is to think of its value in terms of 'social DNA'. Blending the understanding of how our life conditions affect us with the study of how the idea, mind and value sets communicate themselves through the minds of people and cultures. Best understood as the description and understanding of the different world views held by different people – and indeed by ourselves in different contexts – this powerful human science makes it easier to understand and relate to others, enabling us to communicate in their style and with their preferences. It is equally applicable to individuals, organisations and entire cultures.

If you want to read more:

http://www.calresco.org/wp/spiral.htm
http://www.spiraldynamics.com
Ken Wilber and Article about Spiral Dynamics and Iraq War
http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/misc/iraq.cfm

I suggest a search on google to access even more good stuff!

[Revenant]

JKL, I'm not sure what you mean.

(Rev,

I would love to have this post also copied in a spot where people can easily access it as a helpful resource or tool option, any suggestions?)

Yes, you could place it in the ''interesting links'' section. (in the lounge).

[being human]

looks interesting enough Practical...

Rev Im saying that the purpose is being as opposed to not being.
If the devil even has a life to experience there must be a reason
god left him alive to experience it.
The reason is to experience. To be.

Thats what I was gettin at...

not that I even remotely relate to that subject...
the sinner, devil stuff...

[PracticalMystic]

Rev,

You got it! You're remembering...

Perhaps this polarity universe was created so that we (our true selves/higher selves) could EXPERIENCE the opposite of who we are truly are in extreme detail and bring that knowledge back to the source as a grand experiment. Perhaps because the soul knows 3D does not mean he experienced 3D from a higher pespective. Perhaps the best way is to go in(3D) and experience the opposite of ourselves with negativity as a tool to bring us back home again.

YES...that is why Source guided me to record and make available, Source Love book below as a way of supporting one's to remember...what at heart they already know.