Are we really living?

[derk134]

I was thinking about this and are we REALLY living? i mean.. the first 3-5 years of our life is learning basic stuff that we 'need' such as the alphabet, communication, etc... the next 12-whenever years is school, every week day around 180 days a year you go to school and obey people because they have higher authority than you, then you go to college or get your first job and then work for the government for the rest of your life... is this really living? i personally cant see it as living.. we are all a bunch of zombies doing what Uncle Sam tells us to do, its pointless really O.o



*Edit:* The reason i posted this is mainly to voice what ive been thinking lately, i was in tears last night thinking about how helpless society is, hell... how helpless i am myself because i know im going to do the same shit i was just complaining about cuz thats necessary to survive but its not living,... at all... its so sad how fucked up this is, i dont want to live my life obeying people but i have no choice, enough with the rant i will have to move this to the venting corner lol...

[Ildi]

That's a good question Josh, one that more and more people keep asking. I've asked that question myself. Yes, it's living, the way we've worked it out for ourselves. This kind of living served us well for a while, it structured our lives and helped us focus on a certain kind of reality making. However, this kind of living doesn't serve us anymore, as the number of people whom are totally disillusioned (and sick and tired of the rat race we set up for ourselves) shows. So a change is needed, and it's coming. We've been talking about that for some time, and people can feel it. The channeled essences are preparing us for it, and I think it is safe to say that the majority of humanity will welcome it.
I look at my kids and know exactly what you are talking about. The main thing in their life is going to school 5 days /week which they don't enjoy, homework, bullying, and they do it for many years, after which they'll enter the rat race and spend the next 45-50 years of their life working to make enough money to support themselves and their families. I watched my parents go through it, and we are doing it now, and then it will be the kids' turn.
And I look at the economy, politics, all the man made misery, and it feels to me that the whole thing is totally f*cked up. I can't complain, amidst the good old running the threadmill routine we still managed to have a decent life, we go on vacations once or twice a year, and we have all we need, but many people don't have that despite that they work their arses off.
So it's time for a change, and thank goodness it's coming. I might not see it through, but my kids sure will, and that makes me feel good.
So hang in there Josh, things will change. It might not be easy, but if enough people want it we can rock this place. I'm looking forward to it.

[Revenant]

Indeed a good question. I have been aware of this for years and I don't like it.

I have many points of view on this and the following is just one of those views(you could call it a negative one):

As I'm saying again is that the Illuminati are behind all of this and ''they'' are paying us just not enough(''slave wages'') for us to be (financially) free:
(!the following list is overly generalized and not a representation of my belief system!)

* we -have to- work in order to buy food, pay the rent. There is no choice here, because yet I know there is an abundance of food, wealth, energy, and CAN be distributed fairly among the people, yet it is not failry distributed. A great example is Africa.
* we are sticking to oil instead of releasing free energy technology and related technologies like cars. In other words the release of technologies and how fast we ''develop'' is being controlled by the elite. This for financial reasons and power.
* we have to work a lot as well. not just 20 hours/week or less and we come home tired(majority) and we are then too tired to do our hobbies and that day in, day out, for the next 60 years. Yet when I say this to people they are acting like I am the one who is crazy and they, again, conform to the rules and consider it normal.
* we are mostly stuck to one location because of our job and not having enough money to move to another nice place. everything is just terribly expensive.
* frustration because work and getting a job is based on having certain papers and not based on creativity.(can artists make a decent living?)
* your boss has power ''over you'', not ''with you''.
* we have to pay all sorts of taxes making our well earned income even less.
* we are policing each other. When we ''get out of line'' we police eachother back into ''submission''...there is great social control and expectation how to behave and when to behave a certain way. There are certain social boundaries and when you step out of those boundaries you are being called ''crazy'', ''nuts'', ''weird'', ''different''. etc.
* living is now more based on work rather than on self development, expression(the arts) and creativity.

Josh, did you ever hear of NESARA? this law was signed by Bill Clinton(not sure) and is being stopped at the moment by the power elite:
http://www.nesara.us/pages/home.html

See for yourself why this is so....

Not good to focus on the list above but instead focus on what you want.
Its really useless to resist this and there are better ways to transform this reality. Just be aware of it so you can do something about it.

As Ildi said know that change is on the way for the better.

The sooner the better!

Here a short movie I want to share:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoXkTg-Uoz4

[derk134]

it just seems like idiocy to me that we work our asses off for the 10 years or so we get to retire but we are still stopped by currency from doing what we really want to do, there are so many flaws in our current system that you would think would have been changed after them happening for over 3,000 years and the same problems keep occuring
on the school subject, i do believe its necessary but not how they do it (at least in america) they repeat themselves every year and add maybe 5 things you didnt know... the other 175 days are spent repeating over and over, look at math.. im in pre algebra classes and still get problems like 100 - 90 WTF?? thats learned in third grade at the least, then the nouns, pronouns, adjectives, adverbs, verbs, etc why do we need to know what they are? you can write well without knowing the definition of them words why are they necesary? i think the school system could be cut down to about 6 or 7 years starting around age 10 and with more strict consequences for kids who bully other kids or something to that effect, i dont know if the school system actually knows how much bullying and such will actually hurt someone if its done every day nonstop, but i need to go to school now ill try to edit my post tonight to add more

[being human]

depressing isnt it..lol

we work jobs we hate to buy shit we dont need.
Its all fear based.
We are controlled, subdued...because we fear ourselves.
Why would anyone want to control anyone else?
I trace it back to fear.

I agree with Ildi...we chose this experience on a mass consciousness scale.
Even Seth says that things dont just go away ...they have to be played out
to the max.
Unfortunately...we as a race have become zombies. Mindless fuckin zombies yo.
We are ridiculously easy to lead or manipulate. We do what we are told....because of...
you guessed it.....fear.

The only thing that is going to change this reality for the overall good...
is the mass real-ization that we are all one.
Once that happens...and it is....then all this petty shit like working for change...
and half ass forced hand me down knowledge in schools, and injustices and starving kids etc etc
will begin to change.
All we need is to wake up.
But you see that is why we are here....the peeps on this forum anyway...and elsewhere....
we are here to wake people up.
I know I am.....and I know Ive woken people up...if not...Ive gotten them to stir a little bit.
Like Rev said....do not focus at all on all the bad shit out there....its obvious enough to not
have to focus on it...instead...do whatever it is you think you can do to get people to think differently.
Wake people up!!....
Focus on what you can do to change things.

Are we really living?
You will never know....you cant know....
you can only form an opinion about a subject based on your past experiences...
which...you really know nothing about.

Seth says we have dumbed ourselves down a bit. Because of the route weve taken in this world.
We are kindergarteners on the cosmic scale.
We'll learn....we will progress...but the rate of that progression, of that growth...is entirely up to us.

So dont dwell on the bad....go create the good.

[bee]

you might find this interesting reading Josh -

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html

[derk134]

Bee! awesome man ive been looking for a site like this forever man! thanks a ton dude, dont have time to read it atm but i am saving the link to read either later today or some time i get some free time but damn man thanks

continuing from earlier:
i understand some people have learning disabilities and need more time to learn this stuff then so be it, our classes (at least in my school) for the kids who need to go to different classes because they cant learn as fast or whatnot is a huge waste of fucking time, it doesnt teach them a goddamn thing, they either give them the answer or give them a 50-50, what the fuck... this isnt helping them learn, its giving them the fucking answer so they can pass.. we need some people who will actually TEACH the kids not give them the answers, then kids like me in the 'enriched' classes dont get taught shit either cuz they STILL repeat themselves all the time and spend about fourty minutes on dumb shit that everyone knows and will introduce something new and talk maybe 5 minutes on it... even today i needed to go back in my math book and look at how to do a problem (something along the lines of 6x - 2 = -14x + 3)
enough with education, lets move on to how our way of buying and selling things is ludacris!
the barter system would be so much better, why money? people dont get payed fairly with money at all... for example my dad works with propain and gets payed a decent amount ($15 an hour) but then again if he fucks up you blow up... a dentist gets payed a shit ton and what happens when he fucks up? you get a tooth ache... wtf?! but if we went to bartering only people who really contribute to society would be the ones to survive rather than like now where there is all these rich assholes who do nothing but sit on their ass all day and have people work for them and just leach the money from them, i agree JK people need to wake the fuck up and yeah it is depressing if you stand back and look at what is happening in the world but i hope it straightens itself up soon because its bullshit